Archive for September 6th, 2006

If We’re Going to Grant Constitutional Rights, We Should Demand Constitutional Behaviors

September 6th, 2006 by xformed

Welcome LGF Lizards!

Had some time to think this morning, even before the President spoke. I was considering how so many in the country demand we treat our enemy according to the standards we apply to our own citizens….You know, the rights of the 4th Amendment, and the 5th, and of, course, freedom of speech.

Ok…let’s just say I’ll concede that to you, that you’re right and we should handle them as we would any US citizen accused of a crime. It sets a very new precendent, but that’s not the point (just yet).

How about we play a little quid pro quo? You get what you want, now it’s my turn:

I demand that our enemy (those we capture, and their governments (meaning the officials who comprise that organization) then also adhere to the non-right of the Constitution, but one you same people want the rest of us to live with: Separation of church and state.

Fair? Or too tough for you to swallow? C’mon, how can you hammer the US government, and every governmental agency below for that matter, for even a single of the presence of any (Christian) religious leaning, symbols, or words in a commencement setting?

I see it this way: If you want our rights for them, then they have to get all the conditions of one of us, and the ones you have fought so hard, aided by the ACLU, to remove. Why would it be “ok” to let them be partial citizens? That would very much smack of granting privledge of one group over another and would then violate any number of local, state and federal statutes regarding equality and civil rights.

I’d love to see how the Islamofascists would pull this off…

Think about it. Do we grant them all the “benefits” of citizenship, or just a few?

Oh, and if we do this, maybe foreign govenrments will be happen to oblige you when you travel to their countries and they accuse you of something illegal. You can hope they will make you a partial citizen, just as you asked for foreigners here, so you can stand trial under their justice system…

just sayin’….

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Ropeyarn Sunday “Sea Stories” and Open Trackbacks

September 6th, 2006 by xformed

Welcome back and remember: Inline tracks backs are working! C’mon…show me your work!

Today’s “sea story” is not one of humor, but one of finding out I was in the presense of a man who almost was one of the original Project Mercury astronauts….

It’s a repeat, but from my earlier days of blogging, and a story I think is worth sharing once again. Capt Hawkins was quite a man. I include why such a fine leader never made flag rank, either….

Posted in the comments by Station Commando as a “war story” (he’s in the Army):

Being that I’m in the Army I don’t have any sea stories but here’s a good story along the same lines as yours. When the movie Tears of the Sun was being filmed I was stationed in Hawaii (where they filmed the movie.)

We received a request for any black Infantrymen who we thought we could do without for a few weeks to go be extras for the movie. They wanted black soldiers because they were playing the Nigerian soldiers in the movie. Our company sent four people over. One of them returned later that day because the movie people didn’t think he had dark enough complexion to pass for a Nigerian soldier, the other three were accepted.

They were going to be working on the movie all day every day for about 4 weeks. About 2 days into it they kicked one of our guys back. This guy was the biggest, dumbest klutz you’ve ever seen. Whenever the movie people would film a scene he would always be falling down or losing his fake AK-47. In one scene where all the Nigerians run through a small river bed he actually ran the wrong way, realized he was going the opposite direction as everyone else, and then promptly dropped his rifle in the river and had if float away. While everybody else was charging ahead he was chasing his rubber rifle down the river, falling down the whole way.

They gave him his check and sent him on his way.

The rest of the guys got paid pretty well (about $700 a week if I remember right) and got to tell everyone they were in the movie. They did say that for all you hear about Bruce Willis supporting the troops he never once came and said a word to any of the guys there and they were instructed by someone with the movie that if they said anything to him, even in passing, they would be promptly fired.

They also said that Bruce Willis didn’t so much as run up a hill. They had the stunt double do anything that would result in so much as breaking a mild sweat. I guess that’s Hollywood for you.

Category: "Sea Stories", Open Trackbacks, Military History, History, Navy, Military | 3 Comments »